how unGoods have inferior emotions in quality and capacity by heliotach

by heliotach712, pulled from comment history after thread removal on jul 5th 2017

I think it's about time everyone got woke about this.

Truth:

Thinkers have deeper and richer and more complex emotions than the zomg, so emotional right now nonsense of Feelers (except the Thinkers who are Sensors, obviously). This is seen across all of nature, wherein the animals with the highly-developed brains and greater cognitive capacity display deeper and more nuanced emotions and a broader expressive range.

The only reason(s) people think Feelers are more facile with or even monopolise emotionality is that:

• They stupidly confuse comparative advantage for absolute advantage, ie. just because Feelers are woefully inept at thinking logically coherent thoughts, that doesn't somehow automatically make them emotionally deep beings. This dovetails with the politically-correct remedial education sensibilities of the MBTI, wherein everyone's the best at something obviously, there's no such thing as unqualified superiority or even just superiority, nor is there such thing as Truth - such as the truth that NTs (even ENTJs!) are superior to Feelers in all respects.
• They (again, stupidly, stupidity all round) confuse emotional capacity with emoting, with display and trappings. That stuff is properly the purview of Feelers, I won't take their theatrics and tacky props away from them. We think the smoke from a hobo's campfire 2km away means there's a great volcano astride the horizon. Not so. Now all that indicates that people who honestly believe Feelers to be more emotionally evolved beings literally do not know of understand what emotion even is. So why, I ask, are we letting them dictate the terms of something so important?

'--Man-- Thinkers have thought -- Woman-- Feelers profound - and why!? Because he could never fathom her depths. --Women-- Feelers are not even shallow.' - Nietzsche

Altered that aphorism so as to increase its accuracy from, say, 75% true to 100% Truth. As a woke being such as I is wont to do.

Far be it from me to merely identify this gravest of confusions, I will of course apply my fierce and majestic INTP intellect to matters of ontology - that is, why does this confusion exist at all?? We think Feelers are more emotional because they do more tasteless emoting, but why is it the case that they do?

Subtlety, now (that means Feelers and Sensors stop reading now because you won't understand, we're proud of you for making it this far, yes the 'b' in subtlety is silent).

Consider not just emotion in itself as merely possessing a magnitude, but rather as a vector, as being directed towards something. Now the emotional discrepancy between Thinkers and Feelers should start to become apparent.

What do Feelers get emotional about? They get emotional about objects within their phenomenal realm of experience, including their experiences themselves as in the recurring Feeler fan-favourite 'nostalgia' (which is about as lofty as it gets). Mostly they get emotions about whatever's right in front of them and commanding their attention - think of an INFP crying about their cat or gay wizards in their children's books. Feelers mostly care about people, STs care about things and resources.

The emotions of NTs are directed towards things altogether more heightened and rarefied. And more subtle too, and by their very nature incomprehensible to those who do not likewise feel towards them. NTs feel emotions towards fucking ideas and concepts, and about things only insofar as much as they instantiate their ideals in reality. An INTJ or an ENTP will care about the humans in their life not because they're in front of them but because they care about humanity qua humanity. And life itself, and the fate of the universe. And Truth and justice and knowledge and goodness and love and strength. God Himself. Ideas abstracted from experience, not objects apprehended within experience. Things that precisely for their exalted nature are not as such 'there' in front of you to get zomg, all emotional and literally shaking rn guys about.

In short, we are duped into seeing Feelers as more emotional precisely because their emotions are so tacky and shallow and paper-thin.

• More subtlety (sorry Feelers) - the unfortunate and thoroughly regrettable preponderance of SFs in human populations has moulded and influenced human language such as to make it that NTs find it difficult to talk about their complex and interesting emotions, whereas SFs, while worthless and powerless individually, will always have the home advantage thru sheer demographic and numerical superiority. The ancient Greeks (who begrudgingly accepted and tolerated NTs to an extent but did not worship them as would be just) had 5 words that are each unnaturally translated into English as the standard one-size-fits-all 'love'. And let us not forget that Socrates and Jesus had to die at the hands of SF mobs for words like Truth and Love to even be on the table.

So here are some NT emotions that I have catalogued:

-*- - An emotion describable only as something between sexual love and the joy of intellection, 'making love to thought'

&& - The true reverse of pain, not the 'pleasure' beloved of Feelers, but a warning of healing, growth, and change.

^ + ^ - The most complex emotion yet discovered, felt by those who consciously endure the change between mind configurations and experience the broad spectrum of possibilities inherent in thinking and being.

The last one in particular is only truly realisable in a post-human post-mortality future. Some of us are already living there.

And no offence to Feelers, I love and cherish them as much as the next INTP, like they cherish their cats. Just thought I'd express some of my opinions and perhaps play devil's advocate.